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potato_head ([personal profile] potato_head) wrote2012-09-02 08:06 pm

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Just a friendly reminder to all those white 'Americans' out there who rail so hard against undocumented immigrants...

Most Mexican people have a hundred times more claim to the land you built your country on than you do.

I am so beyond giving a fuck about the supposed economic issues that immigration causes. I am so through with white governments using 'economics' as a reason to decimate and ruin other people.

On economics as an area of study...it serves two purposes. Neither of them is accurately predicting the future. The purposes are to study and understand the movement of resources within and between empires, and to operate as a political smokescreen. Remember this any time a politician says to you, 'we need to do this for economic reasons'. Remember that we kept slavery for as long as we did because abolition would 'economically destabilize the South'. Remember that the government is giving more and more land over to oil companies to tear apart in the name of economics. Remember that white-run economies are falling like dominoes right now, and white governments are actively turning down mitigating solutions because they'd rather risk economic collapse than release a bit of the resources their countries have hoarded, remember that they can do this because they will be fine whatever happens because the white men who run most Western countries are sitting on piles of money that their ancestors made on the backs and blood of other people, through the slave trade and war profiteering and stealing land to lay waste to it.

Remember that, and give any plan to 'bolster the economy' a real critical look, and see who it really helps, and who it really hurts, and ask yourself, what is 'the economy' here? Is it the system that includes everyone, or is it just the scaffolding that upholds 'job creators'?

[identity profile] sugar-for-sugar.livejournal.com 2012-09-03 10:30 am (UTC)(link)
Job creators who suck at creating jobs because the current economic conditions support them having a lot of power over others which they traditionally have enjoyed far too much to give up without a fight?

Not to mention how The ZOMG Economy, as it is set up now, basically can't even effin' function without the underpaid, frequently dangerous labor of undocumented immigrants, who are generally rewarded for doing vital jobs nobody else would ever take in a million years with terrible treatment for which (and precisely because) they have no legal recourse.

Also, if we hate immigration so much, why do we make it so redonk easy? It's because we pretend to hate it for the talkin'-box but actually, the country's fuck-off huge and there's a lot of room in the damned place and when people come here on nothing we can give them shit jobs for shit pay so we fuckin' LOVE IT.

Trust me I know. I'm going to have to jump through every legal hoop to stay here with Davy whether we're married or not. If living Stateside was a thing we desired though (HA), we could seriously go right now and there'd be zero issue. We'd just have to get married. Bam. Done. The end.

Of course the US's ridick focus on marriage as a be-all end-all (and desire to eradicate safe legal abortion... why do we seem determined to pack the place like sardines?) is a rant for another day...

[identity profile] poto-heart.livejournal.com 2012-09-03 12:26 pm (UTC)(link)
the country's fuck-off huge and there's a lot of room in the damned place

I KNOW RIGHT

Maybe rich people are afraid of their fucking mansions not being as affordable as they could be if we have too many people to house and the cost of land starts going up. You want poor people to live there? But...but...where will they train their dressage horses~


and desire to eradicate safe legal abortion... why do we seem determined to pack the place like sardines?

People to the more extreme right are also trying to eliminate the minimum wage. If they managed to eradicate abortion everywhere, I'm betting this would become an even bigger focus point for them. More people + no minimum wage = nearly free labor.

They just want to be able to employ more people! Those benevolent job-creators. /sarcasm

[identity profile] sugar-for-sugar.livejournal.com 2012-09-03 12:40 pm (UTC)(link)
The only problem with this oh-so-brilliant plan is that gosh, food and housing costs will probably not go down... it's almost like all those lovely workers will have a diminished ability to work and probably start dropping like flies because they can't, you know, eat and clothe themselves and sleep safely and have health care.

ARGGGGGGGGH

This is why I don't understand how people can ever think that my views are so star-eyed hippie impossible bla bla if you'd just think LOGICALLY you'd realize being a douche-ass is the only reasonable course of action blee blee bloo-- no, you don't understand, I hold the views I hold NOT ONLY ON ETHICAL AND MORAL GROUNDS, BUT ALSO BECAUSE LIVING COOPERATIVELY AND SUPPORTING EACH OTHER IS THE ONLY FUCKING LOGICAL, SENSIBLE COURSE OF ACTION IF WE WANT TO THRIVE AS A GODDAMNED SPECIES. Fuck, it's the only reason we've made it THIS long, we don't have fur or claws or fangs or night vision or any of that shit, we have brains, tools, and the adaptability that comes with being social primates who fucking work the fuck together. The world is global now, we can't keep thinking like we're a tiny tribe of cave trolls conking squirrels over the head with fucking clubs.

*headdesk headdesk headdesk*

ETA a million years late because I was thinking wait what if Poto thought that rant was directed at him and I was like aaaah but no, it is not you for I think you agree with my views more or less I am freaking at people who think like selfish buttface losers. yes. okay. I feel better that that's more clear, now. Rantypants are now at dry cleaners. sweet.
Edited 2012-09-03 21:20 (UTC)

[identity profile] outdatedclocks.livejournal.com 2012-09-04 09:20 am (UTC)(link)
I've come to the conclusion the politicians are both like
Evil
And totally out of focus with reality. Or have been reading dickens and think it would be a smashing idea to have a zillion people, no safety laws or minimum wage, pack them in subpar housing you charge them out the wazoo for and when they can't pay ~off to the poorhouse~

Only like fuck man yr direct ancestors got pinned to the table by unions because THEY DID THAT ONCE. It doesn't work.
Tho if people keep not immunitating their kids we're gonna have a wide scale epidemic die off of something we've mostly eradicated & lol no healthcare. It's the end of the world as I know it & I'm gonn go get my MMR vac touched up.