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Well I was almost not going to rant about the Sherlock fandom but then fucking shit and

No seriously how is this fandom such a fucking cesspool and yet so proud of themselves

The fandom is actively unfriendly towards autistic fans, from discussions about how LOL BUT WE WOULD ALL HATE SHERLOCK IRL BECAUSE HE'S AN AUTISTIC FREAK to STOP SAYING SHERLOCK IS AUTISTIC, YOU'RE PROJECTING/HE'S TOO HIGH-FUNCTIONING/I HAVE TO DEAL WITH AN AUTISTIC SIBLING AND IT ISN'T 'CUTE'/IT'S 'WITH AUTISM' NOT 'AUTISTIC'

And fucking fatphobia literally everywhere.

And stanning for everybody involved in the production of the show even though most of them are seriously not very great people and uphold a hell of a lot of oppression

And fucking shit come on I would just like to be able to discuss the show with other autistic fans without allistic fans barging into the fucking conversation to lecture us for fucking daring to act like we're people and not terrible burdens on our families I get enough of that FROM MY FAMILY.

Or maybe just look at some Sherlock .gifs without having to deal with constant fatphobia and ableism and fucking SHIT

I am legitimately holding back on posting Sherlock fanart anywhere because of this kind of bullshit. I DON'T WANT THESE PEOPLE TO EVEN KNOW I EXIST BECAUSE SO MANY OF THEM ARE SO AGGRESSIVE AND NASTY.


...The original planned rant was much more coherent but I just fucking can't right now


ETA OH YEAH AND I FORGOT ALL THE FUCKING QUEERBAITING

HEY 'FANDOM POLICE' THERE ARE REASONS TO BE FUCKING PISSED ABOUT THAT OTHER THAN ~HORNY FANGIRL LOL~

GAY PEOPLE ACTUALLY EXIST


ETA: Stuff I read to feel better.

Date: 2012-08-25 05:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] poto-heart.livejournal.com
Cheering myself up by reading stuff about autism written by other autistic people

I HAVE FOUND THIS TO BE A SURPRISINGLY GREAT PICK-ME-UP.

Date: 2012-08-25 12:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ladyhadhafang.livejournal.com
Ugh, that's horrible. I'm sorry. :(

Date: 2012-08-25 01:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sugar-for-sugar.livejournal.com
For the sake of... just... I have no words.

All hugs your way. For them, only the spitting on the shoes.

Date: 2012-08-25 06:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] portraitofafool.livejournal.com
I find Sherlock fandom to be overly repressed and comprised of a bunch of very, very selfish and self-centered people. It really blows my mind and even though I co-mod a Sherlock comm (we're nice, I swear and we don't put up with that kind of crap) I actually really distance myself from the fandom itself because of some of the fuckwittery I've seen over there. One of the biggest comms in the fandom is a pit of vipers and run by two of the whiniest and yet, most self-congratulatory, ASSHATS I've ever seen on the internet--and I've been on the internet for a long time and seen many, many asshats, so that's... something NOT GOOD. They treat people in their comm so horribly that it's unreal. Blech. I've not noticed the fatophobia in the fandom, but I have no doubt that it's there because every other phobia seems to be present; aside from the wank-wars over "Sherlock is asexual VS. Sherlock is not". Personally, I think he's gay, but either way... WANKING OVER THAT IS INSANE. Of course I blunder around in SPN fandom, too and Dean/Castiel shippers are some viciously crazy folks when it comes to Sam/Dean shippers and it used to be such a nice fandom. It makes me sad to see it now. And wow, I am rambling at you. So sorry. *sneaks back out*

Date: 2012-08-26 02:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] poto-heart.livejournal.com
Ahaha no RAMBLING IS FINE.

Yeah, I've...known of bad people in fandoms before, but the Sherlock fandom is the first one I've encountered that seems to be a universally poisonous environment composed mostly of really terrible people (or possibly very nice people who get really terrible when participating in fandom, but...that seems unlikely).

I've been keeping myself distant as well - I haven't even joined any comms, and follow all of two people heavily involved in fandom and two RP blogs, and it's still too much. I'm really close to just avoiding the fandom altogether. But I want to draw fanart, I've even written some fanfic (which got me someone in the comments insisting that Sherlock was a sociopath and apparently I should have written him as such) and I just...ugh.

It helps a bit that I'm intending to share fanart under a separate name, but it really just sucks the fun out of the idea when I can't even discuss the show with friends without people barging in to lecture me on my own disability. And I've seen a lot of fans getting really entitled about fanart and fanfic, on levels I've only really seen in furry fandom before. And the random fans stepping into conversations that don't involve them happens there, too. I swear, one of the problems is that half of fandom thinks they're God's gift to humanity/the internet.

Date: 2012-08-26 06:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] portraitofafool.livejournal.com
Rambling ftw! \o/

I find that half of Sherlock fandom is asleep on its feet--uninvolved in everything other than to snag free downloads or post fic. Then there's the other half; those who are all "fangs bared and claws unsheated" that are going after one another (and anyone else unlucky enough to speak) at full throttle PSYCHO out of the gate. It's... I don't know what to call it. A cesspool? Hmm. Requires more thought. And YES, you've seen the crap with butting into conversations they have no business in. I get so irritated with that and I'm just reading the threads.

And the thing about Sherlock being a sociopath... okay... well. No. I know he said that he is, but he's not. Ffs, that's a term the "professionals" even bicker over. Imo, there is a difference between a psychopath and a sociopath (one is born, one is made, in oversimplified terms so I don't write you an essay) but Sherlock Holmes is neither. He may be a touch borderline or antisocial, but full-fledged? No. He wouldn't give a damn about people like John the way he obviously does if he was a full-blown sociopath or psychopath, though arguably sociopaths are capable of deeper emotions wherein psychopaths aren't. Erm... I am essaying almost anyway. *sigh*

I do think he's narcissistic or at least gives the illusion of being so because sometimes I see a little uncertainty in him when it comes to feeling accepted/being liked and perhaps a few self-esteem issues that he covers with bluster and moxie. A lot of what he does/how he presents himself I'd almost construe as his way of being on the defensive and keeping people at arm's length, which therefore keeps him protected. Tl;dr, I think most of his behavior is a cover and well cultivated self-protective mechanisms. *psychoanalyzes ALL THE THINGS*

My point is: I say you're SPOT ON for not writing him as a sociopath and now I want to read your fic. Can I? I mean, is it anywhere online you could link me to it? Oh and also: It's YOUR story, so you can write whatever the hell you want to; that's what fanfic is for. Hell, I wrote about Sherlock getting stoned and hitting on a light pole (oh yes).

And oooh, fanart, I love fanart. Poooost it. :D :D :D

I find myself staying OUT of fandoms aside from writing in them these days. I am very much post-and-run. I used to make a vague attempt at participating in HP fandom many moons and four score ago, but after getting snapped at by damned near EVERYONE, I learned my lesson and fast. Then I found SPN and it was the happiest, friendliest, most welcoming fandom on Earth... then the ship wars started and God save us all, but NO. I took my toys and went home once that started because it is VILE over there when that starts. Oh and the Sam-bashing, I cannot stand that. Then there's Grimm fandom, which I swear to... take your pick of deity... is comatose. There are a lot of people, but next to no interaction whatsoever, so that's not fun either. And don't even get me started on 30 Seconds to Mars bandom, that is just RAGE on my end now. That fandom nearly ruined ALL fandoms and fan writing for me. Ugh. /multi-fandom woes of mass proportions

Fans with entitlement issues... Oh. Yeah. The BNFs are the worst and really, they need to shut up because most of them got there not because they're good writers, but because they post all the time. Higher visibility that way ensures that more people will read and the more people who read, the more popular they become and it SUCKS because the work from most BNFs is utter shit and they have no idea. I've seen GREAT fics with NO comments and complete trash with five pages of comments. *headdesk* I really... yeah.

Date: 2012-08-26 03:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] poto-heart.livejournal.com
Honestly, as an autistic person - and able to recognize other autistic people with a very high rate of accuracy, which isn't unusual - Sherlock reads as autistic with, as you said, a lot of defense barriers. The whole 'well I hate everyone anyways!' attitude is pretty common to cover up 'WHY DOES EVERYONE HATE ME :C' but his character completely supports an autistic interpretation. 100%.

I'm in the 'the sociopath line was a JOKE how do you guys not GET it' camp, because 1) there is NO SUCH THING AS FUNCTIONING LABELS FOR SOCIOPATHS so 'high-functioning sociopath' makes no sense, all sociopaths are high-functioning , and Sherlock would know that and 2) he's likely been called all manner of psychopath and sociopath, by professionals and others, because for some reason people confuse the two (which I agree are different, and I do have some authority to speak on that, although I wouldn't say one is made, although sociopathy can be induced in people) with autism. A lot.

I've played around a bit with the interpretation of him being both autistic and a sociopath, which happens, but I can't see it in the canon character. It would be interesting, though.

And er WELL YOU CAN READ MY FIC IF YOU WANT but keep in mind it's about Mycroft being a sociopath, because I do interpret him as one, and it's a bit...graphic at points and I wouldn't really recommend it widely to be read because it's basically just me working out some issues from my own childhood in fic LOL but it's here (http://archiveofourown.org/works/362532) if you really want it

I much more recommend my x-men first class fanfic if you're in that fandom, there's no animal torture in it? xD

I think of the two Sherlock BNFs I'm following right now...one isn't in Sherlock fandom at all any more (although he was a pretty good writer when he was) and the other is an excellent artist, which is why I'm following her, but just so fucking terrible. I'll have to unfollow her I think, because every other thing she reblogs I'm either 'how are you such a terrible person what the FUCK' or 'lol that's rich coming from you' and it's just too much stress. BUT HER ART IS SO CUTE...I don't really enjoy looking at it anymore though because I dislike her so much. Arrrghghhgh

Date: 2012-08-26 11:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] portraitofafool.livejournal.com
Ayuh, I do agree that Sherlock has cultivated his misanthropy and watered it well. Is it bizarre that I find myself really identifying with that aspect of the character? Idk, I kind of think it is, but being called a "freak" (and oh, how I hate that word) for as long as I can remember has made me really wary and mistrustful of people now. I can see where--and why--he'd have ended up very, "You stay over there and away from me." I've found myself thinking sometimes that he has Asperger's maybe? If you think I am totally off the mark, by all means correct me.

And yes, the sociopath thing was a joke... or a HUGE goof on the parts of the writers. I allow that could be what happened because sociopaths and psychopaths are quite the mystery to a lot of people. So, either (1) he was bullshitting everyone in the room because while he knows the difference, most other people wouldn't or (2) the writers made a big oopsie. I really hope that it's (1) though because that is kind of awesome, I think.

Oh, no worries, I like graphic stuff. I am an animal lover, but sometimes the story demands it and I am not a special snowflake who will wail about it. I wrote animal cruelty myself in an SPN fic, so I know what it's like. There were definitely ooky feelings on my part while I was writing it, but it needed to be there. I'm a pretty unapologetic writer that way--and an understanding reader. I think, in order to write a good story; a believable story, then it's absolutely necessary to "go there" sometimes. And oh, oh, YES, Mycroft is a sociopath. HA! I am so glad that's not just me. *bounces*

BNF artists tend to actually be good--except for one over in SPN who is crap and people still love her. I've watched BNFs, for lack of a better word, become BNFs over the years and the change in their behavior/personalities is really disgusting. Formerly nice (or seemingly so) people become absolutely wretched entitlement brats who talk down to people and generally (try to) make everyone feel like crap about themselves. Some BNFs really are talented or start out that way, but usually as their popularity grows, the quality of their work plummets and it's just meh. Idk what they expect when they're trying to write 15k masterpieces in three hours just so more people can fawn all over them though. *sigh* That's what happens when the ego over-inflates to the point of rupturing.

OT, but: I like your layout colors so much; they're very soothing to look at. :D

Date: 2012-08-27 12:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] poto-heart.livejournal.com
Is it bizarre that I find myself really identifying with that aspect of the character?

Not at allll. I think it is very identifiable for a lot of people. (Not me, in particular, because I am genuinely natively misanthropic and I'm pretty sure he's just putting it on, he seems to really...like other people. I mean he devoted his life to saving them, which people seem to forget, a lot, because as Mycroft points out that one time he could have done ALL THESE OTHER THINGS with his skills and interests, and he chose being a detective, solving murders. And that's why I want to punch Lestrade in the face for insinuating Sherlock isn't a good person, WTF)


I've found myself thinking sometimes that he has Asperger's maybe?

Weeeelll this is getting into the-politics-of-autism so I could go on at length about this...but basically my headcanon for him is that he's got a lot of different diagnosis all over the 'functioning' spectrum because even though we've never seen him be nonverbal on the show, he's stated that he can be, for days on end - in the ACD canon this was due to being strung out on drugs and/or depression but he isn't currently using in Sherlock nor has he shown signs of being depressed when off cases, more understimulated and just plain bored IMO - and that's generally an indicator that he would speak even less in a more stressful situation, which childhood generally is for most autistic kids, and his childhood doesn't sound...ideal, from what little we've seen on the show. And being mostly or entirely nonverbal plummets you down the functioning labels. And you only get 'Asperger's' if you're high-functioning, generally. But I think if he were to be diagnosed now, as an adult, he would probably get diagnosed with Asperger's, yeah.


or a HUGE goof on the parts of the writers.

Good lord, I hope not. But I wouldn't put it past them. They're not nearly as clever as they seem to think they are sometimes. But in the end it doesn't matter too much to me either way...I'm very much about 'death of the writer', especially with current TV shows, I've found what writers (and especially actors) have to say about their own work will do nothing but piss me off, in general.

Aaahhh I'm so glad you liked the fic :D assuming...that that was you by the same name who left the comment xD I'm not going to reply there because blargh people can see it and etc. but there is...sort of more...in the form of a whole ton of RP with [livejournal.com profile] beasts_and_men. Which is currently locked just for us, but might eventually be opened up publicly and/or written into fic form.

And oh, oh, YES, Mycroft is a sociopath. HA! I am so glad that's not just me. *bounces*

:DDDDDD

Seriously though he pretty much stalks Sherlock. Out of concern. I think it's adorable, in a slightly creepy way.

I...also interpret Molly as a sociopath TBH. People don't like that idea as much because NOO SHE'S SO SWEET AND NICE and well...those aren't mutually exclusive xD? but I love the little scene with her and Mycroft. He's such a fool sometimes frequently.


OT, but: I like your layout colors so much; they're very soothing to look at. :D

Oohh thank you :D I actually got the colors from one of the palettes here (http://www.colourlovers.com/). I went a little bit wild with palettes...for awhile my tumblr theme was bright blue and orange, which in retrospect, although nice-looking, wasn't very readable xD

Date: 2012-08-27 02:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] portraitofafool.livejournal.com
I had so many interesting things I wanted to say, but then I read "Death of the Writer" and got stuck on that. Lol. I am hoping I can recall the rest later and offer something in the way of a conversation there.

But. YES. I have gotten so annoyed with the writing on many, many shows that I can no longer watch some of them. I am a writer, that's my job, so sitting around watching people FUCK THINGS UP so massively makes me grind my teeth. It is a writer's job to tell a story, a story that makes sense and has logical points in it. Sure, it's fiction, but the thing with fiction is: It has to be realer than real and so many shows are failing on that level in such a spectacular fashion that I... I. Just. Can't.

I started watching the reboot of Hawaii Five-0 and the first season was decent--even though there were plot holes you could drive a Mack truck through, but overall, I enjoyed it. Then came S2 and I think I popped at least fifty gears watching that clusterfuck of a disaster. Seriously, that show's writers need to be spanked for how awful they are. Oh and fml, the Mary Sues are just... *splutters* So, even though I gamely tried to watch S2, I spent most of every episode sitting there and picking apart the shitty writing. I had to find some entertainment. :|

Ugh and yes, the way actors talk about their own shows these days is pretty bad; I stopped reading cast interviews for H50 about three episodes into S1 because I wanted to bitchslap every one of them other than Daniel Dae Kim.

Lol, yes, that was me that commented. I just have underscores in my name over there. I saw one of the commenters on your fic and wow, passively wanky much? Jeeze. I find a lot of assholes lurk amongst the annals of AO3; have been "treated" to comments from a couple myself. Including one who pitched a fit with me because they said the story didn't have an ending. When I (politely) pointed out that the ending was right there, they went on to throw yet another fit with me and explain how (paraphrase) "the ending is there, but it's not the ending I want". They went on to rudely suggest I rewrite the ending to suit them and them alone. Well, excuse the hell out of me, Anon, but NO.

You should totally compile your RPing into fic form and share it with the masses. *enables* :D

Molly as a sociopath is very interesting to me. I can see it though I don't necessarily "lean" that way, I can still believe it. Erm... Idk if that makes any sense at all. After all, being sweet and nice kind of falls under "superficially charming", too. What made you peg her as such? My favorite rarepair is Moriarty/Molly and I am sold on the idea of them being perfect for each other. There's not a lot of it out there--that I've found--but what is just so happens to be some of the best fic in the whole fandom. Stark imagery, sharp edges, twisted love stories... *happysigh* I can provide links if you're interested.

AH-HA! You know Colourlovers! I hang out over there and look at ALL THE THINGS. It's just so damned pretty as well as handy since I do a lot of layouts and that site helps me with getting just the right shades decided on. There's also this site. It's not palettes, but it's a lot of fun to play with all the same. I'm a little in love with it. Heh.

Date: 2012-08-27 02:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] poto-heart.livejournal.com
Yess the degradation of writing as shows go on is just...so fucking terrible. It's like Disney Sequel syndrome. Where instead of writing an actual STORY they go 'okay, these characters are what made us money the first time' and instead of the characters going through any actual character development or even being three-dimensional characters, they're almost caricatures of their traits in the first season. There are so few shows on TV today that I watch ughhh and half of them are reality TV because even though there is some writing for that at least they can't recycle the same stupid quips over and over because it's different people every season xD

I'm watching Nanny 911 right now actually lol

But yeah there seems to be a complete disrespect for...writing as an art form in TV these days, especially American TV. It's just about what they think sells, and unfortunately they can string people along for a few seasons because people keep watching hoping it'll get better again and it never does.

Including one who pitched a fit with me because they said the story didn't have an ending. When I (politely) pointed out that the ending was right there, they went on to throw yet another fit with me and explain how (paraphrase) "the ending is there, but it's not the ending I want".

omg lol I saw exactly this go down with another writer the other day. Like I said, SO MANY ENTITLED FANS. And then another fan butted in to play 'peacekeeper' without knowing EITHER of the people involved and basically was just telling the writer to calm the fuck down because obviously that should be taken as a COMPLIMENT and safjklmerlmfasdmkflsafs

It's entirely one thing to ask if a writer intends to write anything more in the 'verse (like you did, and I've gotten similar comments on my...one...x-men first class fic as well, and they are my FAVORITE COMMENTS although they also make me feel kind of guilty because they remind me of the pile of half-finished XMFC fics in my fanfic folder xD) and insisting THAT PARTICULAR FANFIC isn't 'finished' correctly. PEOPLE.


Erm... Idk if that makes any sense at all.

It does :3 I don't think it would necessarily have to be superficially charming, though. Sociopaths are entirely capable of being actually sweet and caring people, although there would still be a layer of...putting on a bit because all sociopaths experience 'flat affect', i.e. they don't naturally express emotions in the standard way. And now I'm lecturing oh god okay I'll stop

What made you peg her as such?

A few things...we don't see nearly enough of her (I WANT MORE MOLLY) but things like how she completely drops her expression when she's speaking just to Mycroft in that one scene, and the way she offers to help Sherlock in S2E3 - not just that she offers to help him, but the way she goes about it. I'm not sure I can be much more specific on that point lol, it's more a general ~feeling~ xD

I do like Moriarty/Molly, but...I don't read much het fic TBH. I think because I get so much of it in mainstream media. I'll take links anyways though :3 I just haven't gone looking for any fic of them yet.

Oooo, that site is pretty fun :D I also like this (http://www.pictaculous.com/) site, it picks a color palette from a photo for you. Although I'm not always entirely fond of what it comes up with.


EDIT: omg LOL LJ told me it didn't post the comment the first time I sweaaarrr
Edited Date: 2012-08-27 02:56 am (UTC)

Date: 2012-08-27 10:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] portraitofafool.livejournal.com
Ugggh, I am seeing more and more degradation of writing as an artform in books even. Especially all of this paranormal/supernatural romance CRAP that's around now (I blame you, Twatlight--if you're a fan then please accept my apologies, but I... I can't...). I am on GoodReads because I like getting recs and woe is me for I said I like "suspense" and "horror" when I was making my profile. So, now all I get recced to me is that shit. The titles ALONE tell me the STORIES are no good and then the pseudonyms these writers use; crap like "Raven Moonwater" and such. All I can do is laugh in between going :| "Are you fucking kidding me?!" Ack.

Reality shows just aren't my bag, but I only have very basic television, too--CBS, ABC, NBC, FOX, the CW and PBS--so the three or four that do look interesting to me... do not air on the channels I get. I kind of want to burn the Big Brother house down. And Survivor gets stupider every season. All of this is from just being subjected to previews.

A show I have discovered that I love, love, looooove is Person of Interest. Omgomgomg, SO MUCH HAPPINESS I GET FROM THAT SHOW! I want to be John Reese when I grow up. Lol. I have not actually SQUEED over a show since The X-Files and PoI... makes me squee at least once nearly every episode. My point is: I totally recommend it if you haven't caught it yet.

My particular Entitled Fan also managed to call me sarcastic and rude... before telling me that I needed to rewrite the ending of MY STORY. That story is cursed, I swear, I have got some of the shittiest comments on it both on LJ and on AO3. I disabled comments on it here on LJ and just deleted it off AO3 because I do not need your shit, people. And the comments... are not flames... they're always, "But WHY DIDN'T THIS END HOW I WANTED IT TO?! FIX IT, BITCH!" God, fuck off. Because you nailed it: Doing that is not a compliment and I pity the fool who ever tries to play peacemaker with me in a situation such as that.

No, no, you're not lecturing me at all! I know about the flat-effect and I love discussing this stuff, so never worry. One of my original characters is a sociopath who... ah... doesn't try to fake it and I LOVE HIM. But yes, genuinely capable of caring and being kind: he is, but he just doesn't put on a show (though he can). And I can see where you're coming from with Molly; that makes a lot of sense. *ponders this*

I've not seen S2 yet (but never fear, I am well acquainted with spoilers and am always happy to have more) but your mention of her talk with Mycroft makes me EVEN MORE anxious to see it. I am seriously JONESING to see S2 of Sherlock because next to PoI, it's my favorite show. (But fml, I am so not into this Elementary bullshit CBS is trying to pull. It offends me and I can't even articulate WHY, exactly.)

I am not a fan of het fic at all as a rule for the same reason you stated. Also, original het fiction really put me off reading het SO BAD because UGH at the purple prose-y junk in that stuff. Including such gems as: "stony dragon's tail" and "the sacred moment I entered her". It. Makes. Me. Want. To. Gag. That said, I'm glad I gave Molly/Moriarty a chance because GORGEOUS, some of it is (sayeth the Yoda).

Molly/Moriarty Links:

Death and the Maiden

He Saved the Last Dance for Me

(There is another one that I cannot find now, but if I do locate it, I'll share.)

And one John/Sherlock:

Movement: Measure

Date: 2012-08-28 12:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] poto-heart.livejournal.com
if you're a fan

Oh GOD no. Not that I haven't read some pretty bad vampire writing (I will forever be in love with Lestat and Louis, I think) but I do have some standards, even when it comes to bloodsuckers. xD

But jesus what people think passes for horror these days. I'm the kind of person who read 'Scary Stories to Tell in the Dark' as like, a six-seven year old, for fun. And would swallow Goosebumps novels in one night. I wouldn't really mind so much all the paranormal romance crap coming out - not like I have to read it - but it seems like publishers are putting this stuff out instead of proper horror books these days. I haven't heard of any really good horror novels coming out recently aside from Stephen King, not that I don't like his stuff.

A show I have discovered that I love, love, looooove is Person of Interest.

I've caught...one episode so far, I think. One of my problems is that I really can't watch a show while it's on the air - I do most of my TV-watching in long jags while I'm sewing, and I don't actually have a TV most of the week since I'm at school. I also prefer not to pirate...if possible...but the fact that I'm in the US and have seen S2 of Sherlock probably tells you I don't always stick to that xD but mostly I try to wait until things are on Netflix. Right now what I'm really enjoying is Warehouse 13, although I've heard it goes downhill in S2...sighh...but so far the first season is AWESOME.


your mention of her talk with Mycroft makes me EVEN MORE anxious to see it.

AS IT SHOULD. It's a really short scene but it's so great in so many ways. And Molly in general is amazing, especially in the last episode. I've heard a few people posit that Molly might end up being their version of Mary, and will end up marrying John, and...I would be alright with that. ([livejournal.com profile] beasts_and_men and I have a fanon!Mary in a few of our RPs, and she ended up being a sociopath, as well, LOL.)


(But fml, I am so not into this Elementary bullshit CBS is trying to pull. It offends me and I can't even articulate WHY, exactly.)

I'm reeeally...wary of it. I'll probably end up watching at least one episode to give it a chance because there are, to date, no adaptations of Sherlock Holmes that I haven't at least tried. But initially I was really afraid that they had made Watson a woman just to copy the sexual tension in Sherlock without it being ~OMG LOL GAY~ and to be able to actually resolve it in a relationship, and, well, fuck that. But they've stated they don't intend for Joan and Sherlock to get together, so...I'm willing to try it. But I'm still really side-eyeing them, not for genderswapping one of the characters (honestly, what I would LOVE to see is a version with both of them being women) but for the fact that they A) chose the one of the pair that's easier to relegate to 'sidekick' and then B) seem to have proceeded to do EXACTLY THAT by making Joan not a veteran and taking away her medical license. *throws up hands*

I also had an initial 'ugh' reaction to begin with because come ON, we just HAD an American adaptation in the form of the films, do we REALLY need to copy everything the UK does successfully? And we already have several shows on-air that were at least partially inspired by Sherlock Holmes. See: House, Bones, a couple of crime dramas...


And thanks for the links c:

Date: 2012-08-26 11:54 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
While I think that the way you've gone about airing your feelings is quite hostile I do understand your frustration with this fandom so it bothers me less then it might.

I genuinely have not see any hate towards autistic people but I believe you if you say there is and I find the idea disgusting. My brother is autistic (studying business at Imperial College London right now, and some people still can't believe he made it that far which pisses me off to no end) so I certainly understand your grief.

Away from that I find this fandom malicious and hard to cope with at the best of times. As someone who doesn't ship Johnlock (god forbid!) and who's favourite character is Mycroft (I've seen the fat phobia here) I am pretty much alienated from the rest of the fandom. It always feel very holier-than-thou.

The only part of your rant I don't fully understand is "queerbaiting"? I think I just don't know the word... or at least not in this context.

Date: 2012-08-27 12:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] poto-heart.livejournal.com
...Hostile? Man it's my LJ, ranting here is pretty much the opposite of 'hostile'. I haven't even spoken to the assholes who came into a discussion that didn't involve them to call me a burden on my family. Soooo I sure as hell hope ranting on my own journal in whatever way I like, directed at nobody in particular, doesn't bother you.

Queerbaiting is the way that writers, etc. for shows will 'hint at' homosexual relationships on their shows to titillate female fans and (apparently) bring in more queer fans, but to not have any actual same-sex relationships between the main characters on the show. We closest we got is that Irene Adler states herself to be gay, but we don't actually see her with any women outside of what was presumably a business transaction (or may not have been, but either way, as badass as Ms. Adler is, she isn't really one of the main characters). In Sherlock they've taken it rather to the extreme and made the idea of Johnlock a running joke on the show. Which a lot of slash fans absolutely love, for...reasons I can't really understand, because 'lol gay people' isn't really my idea of a funny joke, but maybe I just don't get it, being queer and all :P

I'm glad someone else has noticed the fatphobia...it seems to be slipping by a lot of people, but it was the main reason I had to quit reading the kink memes, since it's very triggering for me.

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